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Anti-vax Movement Listed by World Health Organization as One of the Top 10 Health Threats for 2019 who.int/emergencies/ten-threat

@jeena also know as stupid being one of the largest threat to humanity.

@jeena I think they didn't go deep enough in looking for the causes: vaccine hesitancy is often caused by vaccination coercion in those cases where vaccination is not the best cure for a disease (like in the case of measles).

@mardy so let's go through it so I can get a better picture of it. What is a better sollution to measles than vacination?

@jeena Measles 🙂 I would discourage getting vaccinated during the infancy, and instead promote it (but not impose it) amoung adults who didn't contract the disease. During the infancy, contracting measles is the best way to get a strong immunity, and mortality rate is very low (if sanitary conditions are decent).

@mardy You point to a UK statistic where they have a 95% rate of vaccination in children under 5 which would, through herd immunity, make us expect that almost none of them are getting sick and therefor also not die.

Isn't the point of vaccination to prevent deaths and complications for those who can't be vaccinated for whatever reason too? Around 1 in 1000 people seem to die from measles, mostly because they are already sick with something else (leukemia, etc.) How do we keep them save?

@jeena Put the numbers into a graph, and you'll see the problem :-) I've uploaded it here: mardy.it/archivos/morbillo.ods

I don't have an answer to your question: what I know is that human body is sacred, and inoculations must only be voluntary. The desire to save everyone is laudable, but it will bring us to a weakened population.

@mardy also I'm confused about your statement that getting the disease is the best way to get immune. If it was a easy sickens like a running nose then we wouldn't even be talking about getting immune from it.

But it isn't, 1 in 10 children get ear infections, 1 in 20 children get pneumonia, 1 in 1000 get encephalitis and 1 in 1000 dies.

@jeena They are small numbers. It's not a disease that wipes out half of the population, it's comparable to a flu. Many people die of complications after a flu, and it's sad, but it's nature.

@mardy Another thing I'm confused about is your use of the word infant, infant's don't get vaccinated against measles today, the first time they're 12 through 15 months of age. I'm not sure if you're discouraging what nobody does anyway or if there is some misunderstanding on my side?

@jeena Maybe "infant" is not the right word, I meant people jounger than 14 years or so. I think that those should not get vaccinated against measles, but on the contrary parents should try to bring them close to other kids who have contracted the infections (like people did in the past).

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